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To the anonymous at, if you find any reference about there being four paradiddles instead of three please revert it once more and include them in the article, otherwise please leave it alone: every site I could find, books I have and, last but not least, my late teacher (who was one of the best jazz teachers in Europe) do not mention the 4th paradiddle you keep trying to include.

As an aside, in the 3 'real' paradiddles you can play the doubles as bounce/ghost notes and still accent the bold hits, in your addition one of the accents would be the second of a LL group and the other the second of an RR group, which would not be compatible with playing things with doubles. As much as it's an interesting phrasing I really don't agree with it being a paradiddle so I'm reverting you again.

I too have been taught (and used) RLRL LRLR as a paradiddle variation. I searched through my books and, what would you know: no mention! Its a tough one. Maybe we should have a note to the effect that RLRL LRLR maybe-or-maybe-not?

Mathematically, there are obviously 4 variations. The fact that one of them takes the diddle across the beat doesn't make it any less "real".

The argument about not being able to accent "bold hits" (the note directly following the diddle) doesn't hold water either. For the fourth variation they just happen to fall on "e". What in the world is wrong with that?

Brad Halls 06:56, 18 March 2006 (UTC)Brad Halls[reply]

This needs more information because I think that it doesn't fully explain what it is to someone like me who has NO clue at all about these kind of things. (talk) 19:33, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rudiment rewrite[edit]

There's a discussion open about moving a full rewrite of Rudiment, combining all smaller rudiments, into mainspace and redirecting all the smaller article to rudiment going on now at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Percussion#Rudiment_rewrite --Evan ¤ Seeds 04:35, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]